Ironmouse and Connor ‘CDawgVA’ Colquhoun are Twitch’s most healthful streaming duo. There is nobody pairing that will get extra reward and love from the neighborhood. Though by no means earlier than have they sat down, in the identical interview, to share what it really means to them.
At this level, you’d be excused for considering Ironmouse and Connor have identified one another their complete lives.
As far as streaming energy duos go, they’re one of many largest. Metrics alone present they’ve more than two million Twitch followers combined, four million subscribers on YouTube, and many thousands and thousands extra throughout all different social media platforms.
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They are two of the biggest personalities in streaming, each in stature and in character. Mouse has lengthy flown the chaotic gremlin flag within the VTubing neighborhood, identified for her loud nature and hilarious antics — minimize by means of with an operatic singing voice. Connor is at instances extra mellow and reserved, however the ‘monke’ does come out in entrance of the digital camera.
But it’s the chemistry they’ve collectively, each on and off-screen, that actually unites them. And since their communities crossed paths three years in the past (asking them the way it came to be offers you differing solutions), they’ve turn into the one duo everybody champions for that motive.
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Interviewing them in isolation offers you one consequence as to what their special bond means. When talking to Ironmouse final 12 months for a unique function, you can really feel the blush by means of the microphone when his identify was talked about. Connor, alternatively, has at all times sung her praises as a creator and buddy.
Locking them in a room collectively is a wholly totally different expertise although. You really get a way for his or her energies, and how nicely they bounce off one another. Everything you see on stream, it’s precisely like that behind closed doorways. The mannerisms, the jokes, the sunshine jabs, and even the sentimental moments.
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And you really start to perceive the gravity of what they each imply to one another.
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The starting of Twitch’s most healthful friendship
It’s a narrative each have informed on stream many instances. Just breaking the ice with this query elicits a chuckle out of each of them, earlier than Mouse pesters Connor to open the account.
“I used to be knowledgeable about VTubers from my co-host of the Trash Taste podcast, Garnt,” he defined to Dexerto, “however actually, I assumed lots of it was form of lame.
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“I didn’t actually assume a lot of [VTubing], however I noticed it [keep growing] across the similar time after they informed me about it. You know I wished to attempt and be taught extra about it, trigger I felt that my viewpoint was primarily based on nothing different than simply intestine feeling and intestine response.
“I noticed Mouse streaming on Twitch and she was fairly massive, and so I used to be like, ‘Oh, I’ll examine this individual out.’ And Mouse is basically humorous.
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“Shortly after that, we had Mori Calliope on our podcast and it was cool getting to discuss to her. Afterwards, I discussed on the podcast that I watched Ironmouse a couple of instances and that I assumed she was humorous, and then I assume Mouse reacted to that.”
There was a little bit of bickering over what was really stated: “I keep in mind when he talked about me on his podcast,” Mouse chimed in. “So many individuals came into my chat like ‘Oh my god, Mouse, you’re not gonna consider this. Connor was speaking about you.’
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“I’m like, ‘who?’” she cackles. “And then they’re like, ‘Connor from Trash Taste.’ And I’m like…”
There’s additionally some to-and-fro in regards to the precise timeline. Connor had been lurking in Mouse’s streams in late 2020 — Ironmouse additionally returned the favor by begrudgingly sitting by means of the Welshman’s Apex Legends habit with a vibe of “somebody save this man” — then they did their first correct little bit of content material when he invited her to voice act in a video of his.
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Behind the scenes, they’d been chatting about taking part in video games, and Ironmouse prolonged an invitation to Connor to be a part of her on Lewdcast with Projekt Melody.
There was a tentative air like most relationships within the streaming world. But as soon as the snowball began rolling, the 2 actually discovered a real connection.
“Mouse is basically chaotic, and I’m fairly good at being just like the straight man in lots of conditions,” Connor defined. “I discover that I’m fairly snug bouncing off people who find themselves extra energetic than me. We acquired on name, and it was simply actually enjoyable. Mouse is basically very enjoyable to bounce off.
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“When I did the dub factor for you, and we began speaking, I seen that we had lots of issues in widespread, and we vibed off of one another very well,” Mouse continued. “I felt like I’ve identified him for a very long time, despite the fact that we simply actually began speaking.
“It’s very laborious to discover folks that may sustain with my tempo, so it was very refreshing to meet any individual that’s ready to push my buttons and actually problem me, and simply be a really cool buddy.”
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Twitch’s transactional nature, and how Ironmouse and Connor broke it
Content creation is an isolating place. Being a streamer means lots of the relationships you construct, even when they’re pleasant, are nearly at all times transactional. The finest method to hang around together with your acquaintances, and even buddies, is to hop on one another’s streams and present content material.
That’s one thing Connor and Mouse each famous when it comes to many collabs they’ve beforehand had individually. But after some time, while you’re on the prime of the content material recreation, you throw that mentality to the wayside and hope you discover a like-minded creator.
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That performed out completely for them.
“You simply begin to worth good connections greater than any form of mutual profit to progress, or no matter every other metric,” Connor stated. “After a set period of time, you simply cease caring about what makes probably the most sense, I simply wanna hang around with folks I like hanging out with.
“People simply valued the actual connection [between us]. In an age the place I feel lots of people on-line don’t have them, or attempt to manufacture them. And I feel that it’s simply labored out for us.”
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“I do know lots of people,” Mouse continued, “they do collabs and stuff as a result of they’re like ‘Oh this can be a good collab, it’ll be good for my streaming profession.’ But I’ve simply at all times been the kind of individual the place it’s like, if I don’t vibe with the individual I actually can’t hang around with them rather a lot.
“Being real is sweet. People like that it simply occurred. And I’m actually glad it occurred, trigger I feel you’re cool, Connor.”
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It didn’t take lengthy for them to click on. Connor hummed and hawed on his personal reply, however Mouse was fast to chime in.
“Our first stream, I knew,” she asserted. “I knew as a result of after we had our first collab, I used to be unhappy when it was over.”
“I’ll simply go together with that then,” he then adopted on.
Mouse didn’t actually take that as a solution. “No you’ll be able to’t simply copy my reply! You ought to have a solution! Sit down and actually look into your self and assume ‘Oh when did I feel Mouse is so cool we should always completely be finest buddies?’”
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The two devolved into laughter but once more — solely about 10 minutes into the interview at this level, this was in regards to the fifth or sixth time they’d performed simply that.
Connor didn’t discover a new response for himself although: “It was form of like, you do these collabs and you’re like ‘Oh that was actually enjoyable.’ Mouse simply had her model of depth that was very obvious. And I used to be like ‘Okay, that’s rather a lot,’ however that was enjoyable.
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“Wait a minute. What is that supposed to imply?” Mouse requested.
“Back then, Mouse was often known as the craziest VTuber round,” he replied, actually emphasizing the loopy. “So I used to be like ‘what? Be regular?’ Everyone simply knew Mouse as intense and loopy.”
“What are you attempting to say? That I’m boring now?” she exclaimed.
It’s this dynamic that actually fostered a fandom round them not like every other on Twitch. Their two audiences, whereas beforehand not overlapping a lot, are principally unified. Even those that are on the periphery find out about their camaraderie.
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For them, that is each a blessing and a curse at instances. The depth of the fandom is each fairly endearing and intimidating.
“People begin selecting aside every part. And you’re like ‘It’s cool that individuals care’ however generally you’re like ‘Oh my god, they care somewhat an excessive amount of,’” Connor laughed.
“I used to be actually anxious at first, as a result of you know the way it’s in VTubing,” Mouse continued. “‘Mousey shouldn’t discuss to males,’ blah blah blah, ‘particularly a fleshtuber.’ I used to be somewhat cautious.
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“But fortunately, my viewers was very receptive, and they had been already followers of Trash Taste, anyway. So it labored out in the long run. We have one thing actually cool and one thing distinctive happening. And I prefer it.”
Making recollections on stream
Really, since their first interplay three years in the past, not rather a lot has modified for Ironmouse and Connor. They nonetheless banter with one another the identical method — in all probability much more so in actuality. They bounce concepts off one another, and come collectively to make for certainly one of streaming’s extra distinctive duo experiences.
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But there are some particular recollections that stand out of their minds.
The first, and most evident, is the IRL streams. Connor first took Ironmouse for a stroll round Tokyo in January 2022. There had been loads of cute moments, laughter, and tears because the Welshman confirmed her the sights of Japan, with a wholesome dose of crane video games in between.
“That form of actually, in my thoughts, utilized, I assume the distinctive place that we’re in to its fullest and exhibiting off,” Connor defined. “Given Mouse’s situation, Mouse can’t precisely simply stroll outdoors.
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“I feel that the actual fact we’re each Twitch streamers… it was like 15 Venn diagrams, and all of it labored out completely in the midst of that. It was like, ‘Oh, that is one of the best of each single distinctive side of this case that we’re in.’”
It was so in style that even the infamous LivestreamFail neighborhood on Reddit couldn’t say a nasty phrase.
“I keep in mind after they informed me ‘Oh my God, Mouse, your clip is on LSF,’ and I’m like, ‘expensive God, no,’” she laughed. “And then I went to go look, and I used to be like ‘what the hell? People are good?’
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Since then, there’s been lots extra IRL streams. If Connor is on tour with Trash Taste (he’s presently in Europe on the time of writing), he activates an IRL stream and Ironmouse is often there with him reacting alongside.
If there’s an expertise Mouse needs to attempt, like going to Sanrio Puroland or the Sailor Moon Museum, Connor will exit of his method to share it. As he sees it, it’s no water off his again, nevertheless it’s lots significant to the house-bound devil of Twitch.
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“I feel it’s very nice. I feel you’re already a really open man,” she confessed. “You’re at all times keen to attempt new issues, nevertheless it’s so cool to see you attempt issues which might be simply so removed from your individual bubble, since you are doing this for me, and it means rather a lot to me.
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“I feel if something, if my channel is something to go off of, I’m open for attempting something and reserving judgment till I’ve tried it,” he answered.
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“It was cool getting to do among the stuff that I usually wouldn’t do as nicely. And that I’d solely do it as a result of I’m exhibiting Mouse round or Mouse has an curiosity in it.”
One of the extra special moments in current reminiscence was the visit to Disneyland following Anime Expo 2023. The duo had performed a panel on the conference — which was a sellout with queues whirling across the venue from as early as 8AM — and as a celebration, they went to The Happiest Place on Earth.
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While Ironmouse didn’t play favorites to any explicit expertise, seeing the fireworks break over the fort introduced her to tears.
“I cried throughout that point,” she screamed. “I felt like I used to be there, and it was so stunning. I simply by no means thought I’d be ready to see Disneyland. So that is very nice. Thank you for taking me.
Connor tried to deflect among the reward to VShojo — who helped him with the tech in addition to CEO Justin ‘theGunrun’ Ignacio and different staffers like Panini becoming a member of Connor on the day — however Mouse didn’t actually let that one slide.
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“Listen. I really like VShojo. VShojo does rather a lot for me, however you additionally made it occur since you had been there. They wouldn’t have gone in the event you weren’t there. It was a group effort, as a result of we’re a group! Are we not?”
That teamwork now works its method into all their content material. Whether it be Mouse reacting in a basket connected to Connor’s bike throughout his mega cyclethons, or taking part in video games collectively, they discover a method to embody one another.
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Sure, they’re nonetheless unbiased creators, however the place’s the enjoyable in going solo? Especially after being caught within the remoted world of content material?
“I really like the truth that he performed my favourite Final Fantasy recreation, Final Fantasy 8, despite the fact that he freaking hates these forms of video games,” Mouse continued. “He at all times talks sh*t about these forms of video games. But he sat down and he performed it, and he appreciated it.
“What an open particular person, really a standout man.”
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There was a 3rd wheel that had to be thrown into the equation although. When Bubi, the straight-speaking archdemon that shares lots of similarities with the Welsh streamer, was introduced into the dialog, the 2 broke out into hysterics.
“He form of does his factor, you understand,” Mouse laughed. “He’s form of actually busy proper now, so he’s off doing his personal factor, caring for his personal stuff.
“I feel he told me he’s gonna do another [song] with me. Isn’t that cool Connor?”
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“Terrifying,” he replied.
“What,” Mouse quipped again. “I’m going to inform him you stated that.”
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Doing good collectively
Connor isn’t simply there taking Ironmouse on experiences she in any other case wouldn’t uncover. The two are pushing ahead an enormous trigger — consciousness of main immunodeficiencies.
Mousey might be the face of widespread variable immunodeficiency (CVID). It was a situation she as soon as did her finest to conceal on stream, even to the purpose of masking the noises of oxygen cylinders.
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Her solo work earlier than Connor came alongside helped to unfold the phrase. But it actually kicked off when he began taking up extra and extra charity work together with his cyclethons and his charity public sale. Combined he’s raised greater than $1 million for the Immune Deficiency Foundation.
Their platform reaches a whole bunch of 1000’s, if not thousands and thousands, and has shined a highlight on a once-obscure situation.
“It’s such a tough factor to diagnose, and it’s such an unattainable activity to form of determine that you’ve it within the first place till lots of harm has been performed, sadly,” Connor acknowledged.
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“When you have got a private connection and there’s a private story that goes together with a charity and charitable occasions, I feel it makes it much more compelling to folks watching and getting folks concerned.
“I feel that it’s very useful that we each have this big viewers on Twitch mixed that enables us to faucet into an enormous variety of folks. Twitch is only a big gateway into letting these large charity occasions occur.”
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Connor, nevertheless, doesn’t have to dwell with it every day. He is completely ready and match. Which makes his involvement within the trigger that bit extra significant for Ironmouse, who was used to touring this path alone earlier than VTubing.
“It’s very nice to be ready to see so many individuals tweet at me each time I donate plasma, which is one thing I by no means noticed earlier than,” she defined. “I used to be afraid to speak about my illness earlier than, once I first began streaming. I simply didn’t really feel snug.
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“It’s simply very nice to see the reception that everybody has given me, and the truth that folks wanna know extra about it, and folks wanna donate plasma, and folks wanna assist out as a result of it’s a uncommon illness, and not lots of people find out about it.
“It touches my coronary heart rather a lot that out of something that he may have supported, he determined to assist me and assist folks like me, and that simply actually means rather a lot to me. I by no means anticipated any of this.”
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It’s one more layer on the complicated and deep relationship between the duo.
“It’s simply form of like the right Venn diagram of 15 issues once more the place all of it form of works out completely that these causes, on this time proper now, on this platform with the viewers,” he acknowledged. “It simply actually is sensible to actually faucet into that.
“Me and Mouse have at all times performed lots of charity work, and so it additionally simply works out actually properly.”
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The singular ‘monke’ and ‘gremlin’ braincell
It’s these shared moments like people who spotlight how the 2 have picked up components of one another’s character too.
Connor famous how Mouse has taught him compassion and consideration in spades: “With Mouse’s situations, there’s some lodging you’ve gotta make after we’re gaming or one thing,” Connor stated.
“It’s made me have to be much more thoughtful about that form of stuff that I’ve by no means [been before]. I’m completely ready and it’s simply not one thing that I ever had to take into consideration and it’s positively made me a extra compassionate individual than that side.”
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And on Mousey’s facet, there’s been loads of progress in that division too. She has principally blown up on Twitch alongside the Welshman. And they had been by one another’s facet for that journey.
Through that path and that grind, Connor was Ironmouse’s voice of help and motive.
“I feel by means of his assist, I’m going to be trustworthy, he’s given me the arrogance to be extra open about myself on stream,” she stated. “And I’m kinda slowly coming round to be extra accepting and open, and simply sharing extra about myself, which I used to preserve personal on a regular basis.
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“And it’s due to you, so thanks.”
It’s not simply on the character entrance however on the content material entrance too. Yes, Connor has dove into many subjects that align with Mouse’s pursuits, however even she’s picked up a couple of pointers from the voice actor extraordinaire.
“He’s given me content material mind,” Mouse defined. “I by no means used to take into consideration making content material. I used to be identical to, ‘Yeah, I’m simply going to stream for enjoyable and simply hang around and discuss to buddies.’
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“That seems like I’ve ulterior motives for streaming,” Connor chimed in.
“No however you’re a content material mind,” she continued, “and you’re so open about it too. Don’t act like this can be a secret. You say it on a regular basis. You simply assist me faucet into my extra artistic facet. And such as you’ve helped me consider in myself, and encourage me to do various things.”
As the dialog winds down, it dawns simply how massive an affect they’ve had on one another. But additionally simply how the time has flown by over these three years, and what the long run holds for them.
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The content material actually gained’t cease between the 2. The IRL streams, the charity occasions, and the random Discord calls always of day will proceed for so long as time permits. And there’s no set path, simply going with the move.
But there’s one massive objective on the checklist: “And possibly at some point we will have a beer,” Mouse quips.
“That would be good,” Connor replied. “That’s my objective.”
“Is it actually your objective,” Mouse follows up, with a heavy dose of need in her voice.
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The two nodded their confirmations. But they’d yet one more factor to do earlier than heading their separate methods, for now. I requested them to say one thing real to each other on the finish. Just a pleasant salutation to log out on.
Connor stored it quite simple: “Thank you Mouse, for at all times being my buddy, at all times supporting me, and being an excellent buddy on this journey.”
Mouse broke out into laughter earlier than faintly whispering “Oh my god, Jesus, you actually imply that?”
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She had the ultimate phrase although: “Well, I simply wanna say thanks Connor for being my buddy on this journey, and for by no means letting me push you away,” earlier than each scoffed somewhat bit at that final comment.
“Sometimes it’s like… I don’t know. I’m simply actually grateful that we’re buddies. And it’s simply very nice to have any individual that will get it and will get you. And I actually admire you, Connor.”
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